Seymour Hersh: ‘RussiaGate’ is a CIA-Planted Lie


During a phone-call with the world’s greatest investigative journalist, Seymour Hersh, he presents “a narrative [from his investigation] of how that whole fucking thing began.” His narrative tells us who is actually behind the manufactured political drama known as ‘RussiaGate,’ and what the purposes are of this manufactured drama.

In a youtube video upload-dated August 1st, Hersh reveals information from his inside FBI and Washington DC Police Department sources. Now, long before the Justice Department’s Special Counsel Robert Mueller presents his official ‘findings’ to the nation, we have information which refutes the charges Russia had anything to do with the leaks from the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to Wikileaks.

These charges are CIA-planted lies subsequently spread by the press. The documents Wikileaks obtained and released came in the form of leaks from the inside (including murdered DNC-staffer, Seth Rich), rather than hacks from the outside (including “the Russians”). Moreover, Rich was not killed for his part in these leaks, but rather was shot in the back during a brutal robbery, which occurred in the high-crime DC neighborhood where he lived.

Here is the video and here is a transcript of it: 

I’ll tell you what I know:

(Mumble) comes off an FBI report, don’t ask me how, I can figure out, I’ve been around long enough:

The kid gets — I don’t think he [Seth Rich] was murdered [because of this] I don’t think he was murdered because of what he knew, the kid was a nice boy, 27, he was not an ITS person, he learned stuff, he was a data-programmer, but he learned stuff, and so he was living on one street, somewhere, he was living in a very rough neighborhood, and in the exact area where he lived, there had been about, I am sure you know, there had been about 8 or 9 or 10, violent robberies, most of them with somebody brandishing a gun, and I am sure you know, his [the kid’s] hands were marked up, the cops concluded [HERSH SAW THE POLICE REPORT] he fought off the people, he tried to run, and they shot him twice in the back with a 22, small-caliber, and then the kid that did it ran, he got scared.

So, the cops do this, here’s what nobody knows, what I am telling you, now maybe you do know something about it: When you have a death like that, DC cops, as you’re [dealing now with a person who is] dead, you generally don’t zip and go, yep I know, what’s the motive, what’s going on, you have to get to the kid’s apartment and see what you can find.

If he’s dead, you don’t need a warrant, but most cops get a warrant because they don’t know if the guy has a roommate, so they get a warrant, I’m just telling you, there is such a thing. They go in and can’t do much with his computer, [to find the] password, the cops don’t know much about it, so the cops have a cyber unit in DC, and they’re more sophisticated, they come in and look at it. The idea is maybe he has had a series of exchanges with somebody who said ‘I am going to kill you motherfucker’ over a girl, and they can’t get in, the cyber guys are a little better, but they can’t make sense of it, so they call the FBI cyber unit.

The DC unit, the Russian[-monitoring] and field office is a hot-shit unit. The guy running the Washington field office, he’s like a three-star at an army-base, he’s ready [mumble], you know what I mean, he’s going to do a top job. There’s a cyber unit there that’s excellent. What you get in a warrant, the public information you get in a warrant doesn’t include the affidavits underlying why you are going in, what the reason was.

 That’s almost never available, I can tell you that — the thesis of a warrant as a public document 99% of the time. So they call in the feds, the feds get through, and here’s what they find [HERSH SAW THE FBI REPORT]. This is according to the FBI report. What they find is, first of all you have to know some basic facts, one of the basic facts is there is no DNC or protected email that exists beyond May 22nd, the last email from either one of those groups. So, what the report says, is: 

(2:50-) At some time in late spring, which we’re talking about in June 21st, I don’t know, just late spring early summer, he makes contact with Wikileaks, that’s in his computer, and he makes contact. Now, I have to be careful because I met Julian [Assange] in Europe ten twelve years [ago], I stay the fuck away from people like that. He has invited me and when I am in London, I always get a message, ‘come see me at the Ecuadorean’ [Embassy], and I am fucking not going there. I have enough trouble without getting photographed. He’s under total surveillance by everybody. 

They found, what he had done, he [Seth Rich] had submitted a series of documents, emails from DNC — and, by the way, all this shit about the DNC, you know, was it a ‘hack’ or wasn’t it a ‘hack’ — whatever happened, it was the Democrats themselves wrote this shit, you know what I mean? All I know is that, he offered a sample, he sends a sample, you know, I am sure dozens of emails, and said ‘I want money’. Later Wikileaks did get the password [SETH RICH DID SELL WIKILEAKS ACCESS INTO HIS COMPUTER.] He had a drop-box, a [password-]protected drop-box, which isn’t hard to do. I mean you don’t have to be a whiz at IT [information technology], he was not a dumb kid. They got access to the drop-box.

This is all from the FBI report.

 He also let people know with whom he was dealing, I don’t know how he dealt, I’ll tell you all about Wikileaks in a second, with Wikileaks the mechanism, but according to the FBI report, he shared his box with a couple of friends, so ‘If anything happens to me, it’s not going to solve your problem’, okay? I don’t know what that means. But, anyway, Wikileaks got access. And, before he was killed…

I can tell you right now, [Obama’s CIA Director John] Brennan’s an asshole. I’ve known all these people for years, Clapper is sort of a better guy but no rocket-scientist, the NSA guys are fuckin’ morons, and the trouble with all those guys is, the only way they’ll get hired by SAIC, is if they’ll deliver some [government] contracts, it’s the only reason they stayed in. With Trump, they’re gone, they’re going to live on their pension, they’re not going to make it [to great wealth]. I’ve gotta to tell you, guys in that job, they don’t want to live on their pension. They want to be on [corporate] boards like their [mumble] thousand bucks [cut]. 

I have somebody on the inside, you know I’ve been around a long time, somebody who will go and read a file for me, who, this person is unbelievably accurate and careful, he’s a very high-level guy, he’ll do a favor, you’re just going to have to trust me, I have what they call in my business, long-form journalism, I have a narrative, of how that whole fucking thing began.


It’s a Brennan operation. It was an American disinformation, and the fucking President, at one point when they even started telling the press — they were back[ground]-briefing the press, the head of the NSA was going and telling the press, the fucking cocksucker [Michael] Rogers, telling the press we [the NSA] even know who in the Russian military intelligence service leaked it. All bullshit.

They were telling. I worked at the New York Times those fucking years, they’re smart guys, but they’re totally beholden on [to] sources. If the President or the head of the CIA tells them something, they actually believe it. I retired at the Times at the end of the Vietnam War 1972, because they were just locked-in. So that’s what the Times is, these guys run the fuckin’ Times, and Trump’s not wrong, I wish he would calm down, get a better press secretary, you know, not be so — Trump’s not wrong to think they all fucking lied about him.

‘Russiagate’ — The Most Trustworthy Current Information

The scant media coverage these statements by Seymour Hersh receive focuses on widespread allegations Seth Rich was murdered in order to silence him. Such media-coverage ignores what Hersh actually said, which Hersh makes clear, according to the findings in the incident’s police record, Rich was, indeed, murdered in a regular robbery.
Therefore, such reports should be viewed as an example of what the Washington Post and others in the mainstream press call ‘fake news.’ However, this term actually applies to the mainstream media as well, on both the left and right, because they’re actually protecting and serving the same aristocracy.

Hersh stated both:

a) Seth Rich leaked information to WikiLeaks. This information most likely was obtained directly from the DNC server itself, rather hacked by Russians. This is the mainstream “conservative” narrative of the events, as typified here by Sean Hannity.

and b) The allegation Seth Rich was murdered – by the Clintons, by the Russians, by the DNC, etc – for this leak are false. This is the mainstream “liberal” narrative of the events, as typified here in this BBC report.

Hence, Hersh contradicted both the “liberal media” and the “conservative media” by agreeing completely with either mainstream narrative. Yes, there are now two “mainstream media” narratives for this, and all political stories these days in America.

This contradiction of both mainstream media is not something an American journalist would do in order to advance his own career, but it is typical of Hersh, a fiercely independent journalist, who authentically does care about promoting the truth above all else.

Do you think the purpose of these ‘news’ stories, which distort the real issues and events, might result from a desire, on the part of aristocrats represented through their financial patronage to both Republican and Democratic party political candidates (e.g., both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton), to distract the public’s attention away from a far deeper understanding, which drives the “narrative” Hersh describes?

Rot by the U.S. aristocracy, which controls both of America’s political Parties, to deceive the American public. The objective of the press is to protect the nation’s aristocracy. This is not publishable in the mainstream media; instead, it is classified as the samizdat of American dissent. Corruption rules America. The public do not. This situation is the foundation of what Hersh describes in his “narrative.”

But there is more to the ‘hacking’ story than what Hersh discusses:

a) There was a leak from the DNC headquarters computer, which Hersh discussed in the Seth Rich case, the contents of which you can find here.

and b) There also was a leak from John Podesta’s personal computer.  This latter information was published by Wikileaks later, which you can find here.

We’ll first summarize the former (the part Hersh discusses): 

According to Josh Marshall’s very helpful 11 July 2017 “Look at the Timeline” (which unfortunately accepts, uncritically and without challenge, the U.S. government’s and U.S. ‘news’media’s allegations that ‘Russian hacks’ instead of Clinton-campaign leaks were behind this):

June 12th, 2016: Julian Assange first announces that Wikileaks has Clinton emails which are soon to be released. “Wikileaks has a very big year ahead … We have emails related to Hillary Clinton which are pending publication.”

June 14, 2016: Washington Post publishes first account of hacking of the DNC computer networks, allegedly by hackers working on behalf of the Russian government.

June 15th, 2016: “Guccifer 2.0”, later identified by US government officials and other private sector analysts as a fictive persona created by Russian intelligence operatives, contacts The Smoking Gun to take credit for hacking the DNC.

June 27th, 2016: First hacked DNC emails posted to “DCLeaks” website. …

July 22, 2016: Wikileaks releases first tranche of DNC emails dating from January 2015 to May 2016.

Hersh says “late spring early summer, he makes contact with Wikileaks, that’s in his computer, and he makes contact.” Presumably, this release of information constitutes the DNC emails Seth Rich sold to Wikileaks.

On 5 July 2017, the Washington Times reported:

It is perhaps the key piece of forensic evidence in Russia’s suspected efforts to sway the November presidential election, but federal investigators have yet to get their hands on the hacked computer server that handled email from the Democratic National Committee.

Indeed, the only cybersecurity specialists who have taken a look at the server are from CrowdStrike, the Irvine, California-based private cybersecurity company that the DNC hired to investigate the hack — but which has come under fire itself for its work.

Presumably, Robert Mueller’s investigation will subpoena that evidence — the DNC’s computer from which the 22 July 2016 information-release by Wikileaks was introduced — if it hasn’t already. Clearly, the DNC has something to hide here, and the FBI didn’t press the matter. The question is whether or not Mueller’s Special Counsel is honest, impartial, and non-partisan in this matter and all matters RussiaGate. The FBI’s actions under James Comey certainly do not qualify in this regard.

Seth Rich’s DNC leak seems to be the only one involved in the first WikiLeaks release Assange announced on 12 June 2016

On 10 July 2016, Seth Rich is murdered. On 9 August 2016, WikiLeaks matches the DC Police reward of $25K for information leading to the capture of whomever murdered Rich.

On 24 July 2017, Veterans for Professional Sanity made public their evidence which contradicts the “Russian hacking” narrative origin for this DNC leak. In general, this evidence remains ignored by American mainstream media, as it simply does not fit into their “collective wisdom” narrative: How to Understand This Russian Hacking Thing

On 6 August 2017, an anonymous technical specialist posted online “(2) Guccifer2.0 Timeline — What Happened & When Did It Happen?” and presented a timeline of the first of the two leaks (the DNC one Hersh discusses), and documented, in a detailed technical analysis, the extreme unlikelihood any hacking at all is entailed in the first information-release.

On 7 October 2016, WikiLeaks released the Podesta emails. This WikiLeaks Podesta release temporally coincided with the release of an audio tape of Donald Trump making his now infamous, “pussy grab” remarks. These two events occur simultaneously exactly a month before election day.

This second Democratic party email release (remember, the first release was the Seth Rich DNC case, the second is this Podesta personal email release) either originates from a second, independent, inside leak (remember, Seth Rich is dead now), or it comes to Wikileaks from a source outside the Democratic party, as in a hack.

The U.S. mainstream media allege these Podesta emails again were obtained by an outside hacker, obviously this hacker must be Russian, although we know the US Intelligence community has the ability to sign this sort of hacked/leaked computer data with someone else’s (e.g., Russian) signature through software known as Marble Framework.

Together, these two email releases form the basis for what we now call “RussiaGate.”

If it was the former (a leak), then it was from someone who had access to Podesta’s computer. A well-informed narrative does exist along that line, but it has been suppressed in the ‘news’-reports. It alleges someone handed a thumb-drive or other physical copy of information from Podesta’s computer, to Craig Murray, a friend of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, when Murray visited Washington DC on 24 September 2016, who then returned with these data to London and handed them to Assange inside the Ecuadorean Embassy.

As regards the information-release from Podesta’s computer, however, far less challenge to the official U.S. line Russia was behind this release has been issued.

 Here’s the Public Evidence Russia Hacked the DNC — It’s Not Enough challenges the “RussiaGate” narrative, as it regards to the information-release from Podesta’s computer. As to whether Mueller’s investigation can be trusted to provide truthful answers (to disprove Craig Murray’s narrative or to discredit the mainstream RussiaGate narrative regarding the second information-release), any such conclusion, at the present time, is speculation.

In the court of public opinion, however, the U.S. government should be on trial here, regardless of whether or not the Russian government is involved in any of this. The idea ‘the enemy’ of the American people is Russia, instead of America’s aristocracy, is the successor to the idea that ‘the enemy’ of the American people was Salvadore Allende,  was Saddam Hussein, was Muammar Gaddafi, was Viktor Yanukovych, was Bashar al-Assad

In other words, it’s a lie.

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