Seth Rich, Seymour Hersh, and Russian Roulette

by Ann Garrison edited by O Society August 3, 2019

Seymour Hersh is right about some of the biggest stories of our times, and he thinks the DNC email theft was an inside job.

WikiLeaks might have contributed to Clinton’s loss, but we really can’t say much more than that.”

Russiagate fanatic Michael Isikoff, co-author of “Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and the Election of Donald Trump,” has been producing a series of “Conspiracyland ” podcasts for Yahoo News so as to put an end to any suspicion that Democratic or Clinton operatives murdered Seth Rich, the young Democratic National Committee (DNC) staffer who was shot dead on his way home from work on July 25, 2016, in Washington, D.C. Curious project—Isikoff’s—because the best way to bury inconvenient suspicions, expressions, or even truths is to ignore them, refuse to talk about them, or pretend they don’t exist. Why start a radio drama series, replete with music and special effects, about something you want people to forget?

Seth Rich had access to the DNC emails. He could have downloaded them to a thumb drive and then given the thumb drive to Wikileaks, or he could have uploaded them to a dropbox, but no one has ever produced any definitive proof that he did. Whether they were downladed or hacked, the emails exposed the DNC conspiracy to steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders. No one, however, has proven that that’s why Clinton lost.  Five Thirty Eight political analyst Harry Enten in December 2016:

“The evidence WikiLeaks had an impact is circumstantial. Trump, for instance, won among voters who decided who to vote for in October [by] 51 percent to 37 percent, according to national exit polls . That’s Trump’s best time period. He carried voters who decided in the final week, when you might expect Comey’s letter to have had the largest impact, [by] 45 percent to 42 percent. (Although, Trump’s margin among those who decided in the final week was wider in the exit polls in some crucial swing states .) And while Clinton’s lead was dropping in the FiveThirtyEight polls-only forecast before the Comey letter was released, the drop accelerated slightly afterward. Of course, one thing didn’t sink Clinton. The evidence suggests WikiLeaks is among the factors that might have contributed to her loss, but we really can’t say much more than that.”

“The evidence that WikiLeaks had an impact is circumstantial.”

Former NSA Technical Director William Binney conducted several data transmission experiments and thereby proved that the email could not have been sent across the Atlantic at the speed indicated by the time stamps. However, another security state pro suggested that the DNC might have had an unusually speedy Internet connection. However, if that were true, wouldn’t the DNC have long since produced their Internet service bills to prove it?

In any case, it would seem more important that the DNC interfered in the 2016 presidential election. They stole the nomination and most likely the presidency from Bernie Sanders, but that was of course buried in liberal hysterics over Trump’s election. The Democratic National Press (DNP) had to find someone to blame besides the Democratsand their own thieving national committee, so we were subjected to the two-year, $30-million Russiagate investigation that finally ended with the grudging conclusion that there’s no evidence to indict Trump.

But that by no means ended the bipartisan determination to scapegoat Russia for whatever conspiracy theory they can whip up. It didn’t end the Democrats’ theory that “Russian hackers” working for Vladimir Putin stole the emails and thereby threw the election to Trump. And at the Mueller hearing, Congressmember Matt Gaetz, R-Florida, tried to get Mueller to comment on the Republicans’ theory that the allegations in Christopher Steele’s Russia dossier were part of a Russian government disinformation campaign to damage Trump. Devin Nunes, the most recent Republican head of the House Intelligence Committee, insists that Trump did not conspire with Russians, but that he, Nunes, repeatedly warned  of Russian interference in US elections during Obama’s second term.

The Democratic National Press (DNP) had to find someone to blame besides the Democrats.”

So now we have conspiracy theory upon conspiracy theory about how demon Russia interfered in our last presidential election, including Isikoff’s latest—that Russians created and spread the theory that Seth Rich was murdered for leaking the emails so as to turn attention from their own DNC hacking. He even suggests the possibility that Russians might have gone so far as to murder Seth Rich themselves.

I’m waiting for the theory that Russia conspired with Al Qaeda to bomb the World Trade Center and the Pentagon to instigate the endless “War on Terror” and thereby bankrupt America with unfathomable war-and-weapons budgets. But I probably shouldn’t give Isikoff any new ideas.

Seymour Hersh on Seth Rich and Russiagate

In August 2016, legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh began to investigate Seth Rich’s murder. He eventually called Dallas money manager Ed Butowsky to ask what he knew about it because someone had told him that Butowsky had unreported information. Butowsky recorded 20 minutes of their conversation because, he said, his handwriting is so poor that he couldn’t take legible notes. Both men agreed that they were speaking in confidence, but Butowsky later published the recording on the Youtube because, he said, Hersh had betrayed his confidence.

In the recording, Hersh told Butowsky that a high level FBI source had shared with him an FBI investigation into Rich’s death and Rich’s contact with Wikileaks, which included a forensic investigation of Rich’s computer. This is part of that conversation:

Seymour Hersh: I’ll tell you what I know. What I know comes off an FBI report. Don’t ask me how. You can figure out I’ve been around long enough. This isaccording to the FBI report. What they find is he [Rich] makes con[tact]. First of all, you have to know, you have to know some basic facts. One of the basic facts, is there’s no DNC or Podesta email that exists beyond May 22nd, May 21st, 22nd, the last emails from either one of those groups. And so what the report says is that sometime in late spring—we’re talking about June, you know, summer and June 21st, late spring would be after, I presume . . . I don’t know. I just say late spring, early summer, he [Rich] makes contact with Wikileaks. That’s in his computer and he makes contact. They [FBI investigators] found what he had done. He had submitted a series of documents, of emails, some juicy emails from the DNC. He offered a sample, an extensive sample—y’know I’m sure dozens of email—and said, “I want money.”

Later Wikileaks did get the password. He had a Dropbox, a protected Dropbox, which isn’t hardto do. I mean you don’t have to be a wizard, IT wizard. Y’know he was certainly not a dumb kid, and they got access to the Dropbox. He [Rich] also, and this is also in the FBI report, he’d also let people know with whom he was dealing, and I don’t know how he dealt—I’ll tell you about Wikileaks in a second. I don’t know how he dealt with Wikileaks—the mechanism. But he also, the word was passed, according to the FBI report, “I also shared this box with a couple of friends, so if anything happens to me, you’re not, it’s not going to solve your [their?] problem.” OK? I don’t know what that means, I don’t know what he was … anyway, but Wikileaks got access and before he was killed.

Ed Butowsky: But what you’re saying is that he uploaded stuff into the Wikileaks dropbox and they pulled it down and that’s where the Podesta and DNC emails came from.

SH: It doesn’t preclude Russians also hacking them! I just don’t think that. Y’know it’s always Occam’s Razor. Wikileaks got ‘em.

EB: Yeah, I know. I understand. But I wanta stay focused on one thing just for a moment. You saw the FBI report? 

SH: No. I have somebody on the inside. Y’know I’ve been around a long time and I write a lot of stuff. I have somebody on the inside who will go and read a file for me. And I know this person is unbelievably accurate andcareful. He’s a very high-level guy and he’ll do a favor.

EB: And is there any way we can get our hands on the report?

Hersh responded that he could not risk exposing his high-level FBI source by sharing a document even if he could get one. He then asked Butowsky to tell him what he knew:

SH: My pen is down. I’m not quoting you about anything. I know that. What do you know?

EB: I know that Julian Assange told a friend of mine who met with him that he got the emails from Seth Rich.

SH: Whoa!

EB:  And they’re very personal friends.

Hersh said that he had been working on the story since August 2016 because he foresaw that Russia would be blamed for the email leaks.

SH: I’ve been doing this story since the late summer because I smelled it, I smelled it in August. OK? That the fallback was going to be Russia.

That’s an abridged version of the conversation between Seymour Hersh and Ed Butowsky, but anyone who wants to listen to the whole thing—to be sure I haven’t mangled the meaning or for any other reason—can find it on this Reddit post of the YouTube video:Full 20 min audio available for first time of Sy Hersh & Ed Butowsky discussing Seth Rich .

Occam’s Razor, which Seymour Hersh cites as the guide to his conclusions, is a philosophical principle. If there exist two explanations for how and/or why anything happens, the one that requires the least speculation is usually correct. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation.

Perhaps someone could suggest using Occam’s Razor to Michael Isikoff.

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